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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote nightranger Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: September/17/2009 at 13:32
I just purchased and took delivery of a Cooper Model 52 Jackson Hunter in .280 Rem.   I balked on the .280 AI because I'm not a reloader and was concerned about the availability of factory .280 AI ammo. 
 
I mounted a Zeiss Conquest 4.5x14x44 scope on it and bore sighted it.  Took it to the range yesterday.  I used factory Federal Fusion 140 grain ammo and shot a 4-shot grouping of 1/2" @ 50 yards with ease.   Made my adjustments and sighted in at 100 yards with 3/4" grouping with no effort.  I dont know if it was an illusion but it seemed to have less recoil than my Winchester Model 70 .270. 
 
 Wow!!! Nice shooting gun.  Who needs AI after all.   
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Roy Finn Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: September/17/2009 at 13:38
The difference between the 280 and 280 Ackley is not even enough to start a good argument over. Just enjoy your new Cooper.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote nightranger Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: September/17/2009 at 13:41
No regret here. I'm as happy as a 10 year old on Christmas morning.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Roy Finn Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: September/17/2009 at 13:44
I don't think there is a nicer factory semi-custom/production rifle on the market today, in my opinion.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote John Barsness Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: September/17/2009 at 20:38
Very good rifles! I have shot a few, and have yet to hear about one that doesn't shoot great.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Dale Clifford Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: September/18/2009 at 09:19

got a steyr luxus when they first came out (around 75' I think) in 7x64 brenneke and used H mantle bullets (preceded nosler partitions) for a lot of game in Idaho and wyo. Any powder in the 4350 range works great, currently using WW780 with Amax (bc at .610). The main difference in reloading -- orginally the 280 was set up for the Remington auto and loaded way down. As Roy stated the 280 gives up very little to the AI when handloaded, and shows the least improvement from the Ackley formula.

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hi Dale;
Nice rifle: I like the 280 but have always had 270win.
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Originally posted by gferrett gferrett wrote:

hi Dale;
Nice rifle: I like the 280 but have always had 270win.
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if you shot and reloaded a .280 you would abandon the .270win
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote nightranger Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October/28/2009 at 23:03
Unfortunately I can't show you my Cooper since I dont have enough post to attach photosSad
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Tip69 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October/29/2009 at 08:05
Originally posted by nightranger nightranger wrote:

I dont know if it was an illusion but it seemed to have less recoil than my Winchester Model 70 .270. 


I had the same experience with a Model 70 in 30-06.... seemed to kick way more than a Rem Model 700 with the same exact ammo!  Sold it and have never bought another Model 70.  Mine was made in the 70's.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote ccoker Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October/29/2009 at 10:41
John,
while we do love all this talk and it's a lot of fun to play with the different calibers, get obsessive over it all, etc... you are right
shot placement is everything and with the right type of bullet for the intended use, game over...

you wrote an interesting article in handloader mag about the 308 and how people ask for advice on a very accurate hunting caliber and the 308 is recommended by you for lots of good reasons but everyone wants newer/faster, whatever and the real reason is they want something "cooler"

that really resonated with me.. I had a tack driving 308 (tikka), got a 270 (sako) and never really got that consistent accuracy out of it, not knocking the 270.....

I am back to a 308, so easy to load for, tons of great data, tons of great bullets, can find ammo anywhere, etc..  and VERY accurate

can't wait until next weekend!
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