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    Posted: February/07/2011 at 15:08

Does anyone have an opinion on a 280 Rem?  I recently sold my 308 and was going to get another one in a Model 70, but was kind of interested in this calibre and I don't know much about it.  It'll be used for deer, hogs, and elk someday.

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i wish i had another one! great round! will kill any of the stuff you mentioned.
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It's a great cartridge covering the same range of applications as the .270 and .30-06.  It's essentially a compromise between the .270 & -06, bridging the narrow gap betwen the two.  Because it uses 7mm bullets, it offers greater bullet selection than the .270 and higher BC on average than the .308 bullets.  The .30-06 is maybe a tad better for very large game because of its ability to use heavier bullets.  Other than that, the .280 will do everything the -06 will do and the results on game animals would be the same.
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Thanks for info guys.
 
Is the 280 a better choice for handloaders?  It doesn't look like there's alot of factory ammo options.  I don't handload but I'd like to get into it, I just need to swipe my dad's stuff  Big Grin.
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yes, its great round to "roll your own" with. factory ammo choices are slowly getting better, but imo its always better to load your own ammo. i would be more than happy to help you reload for the .280. one of these days i need to get myself one back into my collection.
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Originally posted by pyro6999 pyro6999 wrote:

yes, its great round to "roll your own" with. factory ammo choices are slowly getting better, but imo its always better to load your own ammo. i would be more than happy to help you reload for the .280. one of these days i need to get myself one back into my collection.
 
I might take you up on that...thanks.  I'll need all the help I can get. 
 
Now I just have to find a rifle.  I had my heart set on a Model 70 but it doesn't look like they chamber the featherweight or ultimate shadow in 280.  I found a custom Mauser on an online auction but it's a tad more than I want to spend.
 
Another question...is a 280 Rem and 7mm Express the same thing?
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Absolutely love the .280REM would not give it up for the world.

It is a very under-rated cartridge, It is perfect for loaders, I know for a fact it will take ELK easily with proper placement and can do Bear just as easy.

You will be very impressed by its ballistics internal and external as well as terminal.

I think you will not look back...

Certainly will not regret it if you get enough brass to suffice you.

Loaded down it is very pleasant for my wife to shoot and loaded up it is not to bad, a little more staunch than a heavy 30-06 and less than a 7mm Mag with very similar performance at hunting ranges...

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 [/QUOTE] Another question...is a 280 Rem and 7mm Express the same thing?[/QUOTE]
Yes same round.
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Add another vote for the 280. AWESOME caliber, IMO.
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I looked at the ballistics compared to the 308 and it's not even close...much more impressive.  Are you guys having better luck with a certain load than others?

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I don't load for any 7mm stuff, but look at the 162gr. Hornady AMAX.
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7mm express,280 and 7x64 brenneke are the same round -- they like slower powders , and with anything above 160 grs. try something a bit faster than 1x10 twist. most loads for the 280, and the other two are fairly mild compared to what the cartridge can do when loaded to 270 pressures. This Ti likes 162 Amax, 780 WW and nosler brass around 2850fps. not many 30-06 or 270 loads will keep up to it.
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i was using a 140gr sierra pro hunter and a bunch of rl-22, i wouldnt hesitate to use a 160gr nosler accubond and a stiff load of h-1000 in it either.

remington, ruger and browning are probably your best choices right now as far as new rifles go.
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Originally posted by Dale Clifford Dale Clifford wrote:

7mm express,280 and 7x64 brenneke are the same round -- they like slower powders , and with anything above 160 grs. try something a bit faster than 1x10 twist. most loads for the 280, and the other two are fairly mild compared to what the cartridge can do when loaded to 270 pressures. This Ti likes 162 Amax, 780 WW and nosler brass around 2850fps. not many 30-06 or 270 loads will keep up to it.
 
 
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Originally posted by pyro6999 pyro6999 wrote:

remington, ruger and browning are probably your best choices right now as far as new rifles go.
 
 
I've noticed that.  I found a couple of used Model 70's but they were push feed, which will work, but I was hoping to find a new CRF.  I might go with a Ruger...we'll see.  I'd love to find a sporterized Mauser.
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280 is a great round.  I would look at one, but I have a 270.  My room mate has one, and it shoots ok.  I would suggest hand loads personally.  None of the factory stuff he has shot can keep up with my 270 rounds, but as Dale pointed out, the 280 has some great loads with the heavier bullet he uses.
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I load  160gr accubond with H414 with a mag primer and it dose very well.
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Good mousers (in the spirit of mispronounciation) are hard to find these days, finding one in 280 is unlikely, most will be old Sears  or Wards FN mausers n 270 which was a really popular combination back then, which make a good starting pt. if you want to go that way. I've used a 7x64 steyr luxus for over 30 years, and see some on gunbroker on occasion, if thats an option.
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Are you sure the 7x64 Bernneke is the exact same ? I know it is virtually the same in performance as well as size but I did not know it was actually interchangeable.

As to the 280 +1 to all of the above, I would love to have one but with a 270 and all of the other similar calibers I own, I can't really justify one.

Well I see this came up while I was typing never mind.

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Originally posted by powderburn powderburn wrote:

Are you sure the 7x64 Bernneke is the exact same ? I know it is virtually the same in performance as well as size but I did not know it was actually interchangeable.

As to the 280 +1 to all of the above, I would love to have one but with a 270 and all of the other similar calibers I own, I can't really justify one.

Well I see this came up while I was typing never mind.

7x64 and 280Rem are very similar rounds, but they are most certainly not interchangeable.  The chambers are different, case taper is different.  pressures are a little different too.

They are similar ballistically with the same bullet, but most certainly not interchangeable.

For the record, I have a 280Rem and like it immensely.

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Originally posted by Dale Clifford Dale Clifford wrote:

Good mousers (in the spirit of mispronounciation) are hard to find these days, finding one in 280 is unlikely, most will be old Sears  or Wards FN mausers n 270 which was a really popular combination back then, which make a good starting pt. if you want to go that way. I've used a 7x64 steyr luxus for over 30 years, and see some on gunbroker on occasion, if thats an option.
 
I've found a Mauser 98 and 2-Turkish, one built in 1937 and the other was a full rebuild off of a Turkish 98 (all in 280 Rem).  The '37 Turkish is really cheap.  I wouldn't have any idea if they're good deals or not, but they're in my price range (Turkish models).
 
If I wanted to rebarrel something to a 280 Rem, can I start with any kind of long action bolt in a 270 or 30.06...or is there more to it than that? 
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Originally posted by pyro6999 pyro6999 wrote:

remington, ruger and browning are probably your best choices right now as far as new rifles go.
 
 
I've noticed that.  I found a couple of used Model 70's but they were push feed, which will work, but I was hoping to find a new CRF.  I might go with a Ruger...we'll see.  I'd love to find a sporterized Mauser.

why do you need a claw?? im just curious. people have gone to alaska and africa both for ages with push feeds and lived to tell about it.
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why do you need a claw?? im just curious. people have gone to alaska and africa both for ages with push feeds and lived to tell about it.
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I know.  I had in my head that I wanted a CRF, so that's what I'm looking for.  I've got a push feed Model 70 and it's a great shooter. If I can't find one, I'm good with a push feed.
 
I'd have no problem picking up a Browning...maybe even a TC Icon or Venture. 
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i had a .280 rem in the old ruger m77 style, i would be interested to try a new hawkeye in one. i would really rather have one in a browning abolt or a rem700 lss mountain rifle though.
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Originally posted by pyro6999 pyro6999 wrote:

i had a .280 rem in the old ruger m77 style, i would be interested to try a new hawkeye in one. i would really rather have one in a browning abolt or a rem700 lss mountain rifle though.
 
I looked at Ruger's website and it didn't show they chambered anything in a 280 Rem.
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