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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Rancid Coolaid Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: February/02/2016 at 14:03
The first time you walk into a car dealership to buy a car, the salesman is your buddy, wants to help, and is immensely knowledgeable of not only his offering but the offering of others, right?  After all, he sells cars, he is a professional, he only has my best interests at heart, right?

After buying 5 or more cars, I bet you walk into a dealership with a VERY different mindset, attitude, and set of expectations.

Some of us have bought more than 100 scopes, used hundreds more, and have done this dance many, many times before.

There exists, within the natural universe, possible events and probabilities of those events.  It is not statistically impossible that a person could have a heart attack while being bitten by a shark that is being struck by lightning.  The probabilities of each event is low, of all events simultaneously occurring, even lower, but always with a non-zero probability.

Hearing that a $300 scope is in every way the equal of a well established $1500 scope (with a stellar reputation for optic, mechanical precision, and support), and that said $300 comes from a new maker, that statement gets a well-deserved probability, non-zero, but close.

A guy once told me that a VW bug was the fastest production car in the world in the first 75 feet.  Saying it didn't make it true, no matter how emphatic he was.

We are welcoming and always want to hear new things.  It helps if we can comprehend the statements made, that requires a certain agreement about how written language works.

Your experiences might well differ from mine, each is a data point, one neither proves nor disproves the other; but I do have lots of data points!
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Excellent Excellent Excellent  Well said RC.
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Jeff doesn't NEED cuss words.... Excellent
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Originally posted by Rancid Coolaid Rancid Coolaid wrote:

The deciding factor for binos is the same as it is for rifle scopes: intended use.  On a sunny day of casual birding, you might notice no difference.  In dense woods with lots of shadow, low light, and hours on glass, you really start to see how optics differ.

As Sparky said, if you see no difference for your uses, awesome; but others using the optic under different circumstances might see things differently, literally.

I get the same question often on AR15s: why pay $3,000 for one when you can pay $800 for almost the exact same thing.  This is somewhat true.  And if you will be shooting 100 rounds/year, you'll see little difference.  If you ever put 2,000 rounds through both in a day, the differences become obvious really quick.

No one is saying you aren't seeing what you are seeing, we are simply pointing out that circumstances of use (and abuse) often make differences more obvious.
I just built an AR-15 for my daughter.  I bought it a part at a time.  I purchased nothing but the best available parts.  It cost every bit as much as the other high-end ARs that are sold already assembled. It shoots every bit as well as any AR on any range.  I guess my point is, you can get an AR now for around $500 -$600.  But it's going to be a 4 to 5 MOA rifle rather than a 1/4 - 1/2 MOA rifle.


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Bud perm ill start off by saying you and your little group here should put a warning lable on this fourm saying speak at your own risk . let me explain i have never heard such remarks about one guy offering a helping opinion about a $360.00 scope . the statments i made about the athlon scope were made because someone ask for for some knowledge about the scope and no one on the fourm had any answers other than myself at that time .

Just to clear up a few things. i proably have as much experience in hunting and shooting than anyone on this fourm
I personally own the four scopes that i was useing as an example i wasn't just throwing out a bunch of bullsh*t .

i am still standing behind what i said about the athlon scope how ever that is my personal opinion and untill you can prove me wrong i wouldnt be so quick to pounce on my statement.

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Lighten up, Francis......We get it...you like Athlon. 




Edited by cheaptrick - February/03/2016 at 04:18
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote fiveshotdot Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: February/03/2016 at 16:27
Just to let you all know, I will be visiting Athlons Lenexa, ks location to preview their scopes. I will try to post a youtube link after my visit.
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Athlon Talos BTR 4-14X44 APLR2 FFP

Before purchasing this scope I tried fooling myself into thinking it would compare to the Vortex Viper PST 4-16x50 VMR-1 MRAD FFP.  But now after having the Talos in my hands I realize it’s not fair or practical to compare a $270 scope to a $900 scope.  All though I only paid $180!

The turrets have distinct positive clicks, but are a little mushy with some play, but acceptable.

The magnification travel is a little wide, but again acceptable.    

The reticle imo is absolutely awesome and surpasses its price.  

The glass imo far surpasses its price.  It’s good and it’s clear, but not elite glass.   

Now as far as tracking and holding zero, not getting a chance to check for a couple weeks due to other obligations. 

I really like the looks of the scope so far.  As for the $270 price!  In my opinion I feel the features this scope brings to the table is a pretty damn good bargain.  I can’t wait to go out and play!           

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Wranglerdog, maybe I started this off on the wrong footing, let's start over.

Please explain to me, in as much detail as you can, your process for evaluating the optical clarity, the mechanical repeatability, and the overall quality of a rifle scope.

With that, I can begin to weight your opinions.

I have not used that or any other Athlon scope, so you most definitely have data in hand I do not.  That said, I have extensive experience with Zeiss and Nightforce.
To which specific Zeiss and Nightforce scopes were you comparing the Athlon?
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Hope it performs to your satisfaction.  After-all that's what really counts right?
Just about everything one experiences twinges of buyer's remorse....
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Buyers remorse every time I buy a new diesel truck   
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Heard dat!  Their MSRPs are ridiculous!!!!!
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Originally posted by driller2948 driller2948 wrote:

Buyers remorse every time I buy a new diesel truck   


NO REASON TO BUY A DIESIL UNLESS YOU ARE GOING TO PULL SOMETHING BIG OR RUN 500,00 MILES.

OR MORE.
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My 2000 F-250 has 506,000 on it son driving it now! 2013 GMC 2500 already has 175,000 I rack up 60k a year in travel and pull a monster 5th wheel behind me about 25% of the time and a few other haulers!
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FORGOT TO ASK! WHAT DO U DRIVE PEDDLER? PLEASE DON'T SAY A "RICER"
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Nope I'm just a peddler living in snow country and a fwd works fine.The only thing I pull might be a whitetail home on a hitch carrier.Thats cuz I'm too old to put him on the roof!!!

It's just easier at my age.
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Well Peddler, your just starting to rub me a little the wrong way!  At the young age of 49 years, I just don't get your hummer.  But sometimes friendships take time, and I still got plenty of that!    
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Well driller I only do about 30 and at my age that's all I care to do. I've never done 60 but did 50 for about 10 years but never had to pull anything like you. I'm sure that's a real chore. I have a very good friend that's a diesel foreman in a big shop and he says don't buy one unless you pull something big or want to keep it for a long time.

Didn't mean to rub you the wrong way by any means and I can proudly say I've never owned any " Ricer ".

I used to drive General Motors till they went bankrupt and didn't pay anything back, now I wouldn't p==s on them if they were on fire.

We have two Explorers.

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Let's stay on topic boys. If ya wanna talk trucks, use a different forum
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No Pics

how do you post a pic?  I'm just a grasshopper, but don't see option??? 
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Originally posted by kickin45 kickin45 wrote:

Let's stay on topic boys. If ya wanna talk trucks, use a different forum


Really??
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[QUOTE=driller2948] <span style="line-height: 1.4;">Athlon Talos BTR 4-14X44 APLR2 FFP</span><p ="Msonormal"><o:p></o:p>



<p ="Msonormal">Before purchasing this scope I tried fooling myself into
thinking it would compare to the Vortex Viper PST 4-16x50 VMR-1 MRAD FFP.  But now after having the Talos in my hands I realize
it’s not fair or practical to compare a $270 scope to a $900 scope.  All though I only paid $180!

Where did you get it from? That's a great deal. That's inexpensive enough to purchase one and give it a good run through on a few of my long sticks.
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