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I was able to look at a bunch of binoculars this weekend I compared a bunch of these that have been talked about. I really think that it is hard to complain about the monarch 7's. they have great ergonomics and are the brightest of the bunch and they're 100.00 less than the competition. Hard to beat. I tried the bx4 Mckinley's and they were just super sharp edge to edge. I felt the had the best glass and the colors were just much more vibrant. They have flat lenses and when I panned across the image it kinda made me dizzy. Don't know what that's called.. Lack of pincushion? They weren't all perfect though the eye cups are gigantic and when you have them out they squeeze the crap out of the bridge of my nose. It was very annoying. Someone at leupold should be fired. They felt fine though if you had them screwed in. I wear glasses so it wouldn't be an issue. They did feel very strong and sturdy, nice focus. The viper hd's were good they have good glass as good as the nikons, not as bright and the focus was pretty easy to turn, too easy. It kinda made them feel cheap, but you would have that great warranty. In the end I think I'm really digging those Mckinley's. the great image just made up for those poorly designed eye cups.

I compared the Meostars hd's and I must admit they are pretty stellar binocs. Great ergonomics and amazing glass. I'm still critical of the eye appeal though. They were in my opinion better than the zeiss conquests.

My question is what's the meopta warranty? What's the difference in the meopta meostar hds and the meopta cabelas euro hd? The store guy was telling me the cabelas had a grade lower in glass? Was he saying this because we were at sportsmans warehouse?
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They are the same bino. Cabelas just takes care of the warranty imstead of meopta. Meopta has a great warranty service. It is well done when i used it with a scope
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meostars dont look so bad do they?
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I don't think the meostars look bad in any way, they aren't butt ugly. I just think other binoculars look better. They just look a little front heavy. Just a matter of preference. But it is the same glass? Anyone worked with the cabelas warranty?
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Originally posted by Thefieldster1 They weren't all perfect though the eye cups are gigantic and when you have them out they squeeze the crap out of the bridge of my nose. It was very annoying. Someone at leupold should be fired. They felt fine though if you had them screwed in. I wear glasses so it wouldn't be an issue. They did feel very strong and sturdy, nice focus. ... In the end I think I'm really digging those Mckinley's. the great image just made up for those poorly designed eye cups. <br><br><br>[/QUOTE Thefieldster1 They weren't all perfect though the eye cups are gigantic and when you have them out they squeeze the crap out of the bridge of my nose. It was very annoying. Someone at leupold should be fired. They felt fine though if you had them screwed in. I wear glasses so it wouldn't be an issue. They did feel very strong and sturdy, nice focus. ... In the end I think I'm really digging those Mckinley's. the great image just made up for those poorly designed eye cups.


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Go easy on Leupold Big Smile .  That is not a poor design choice that needs get anybody fired.  The rage in binoculars lately is the flat field.  Not only flat but wide, not only flat and wide, but sharp to the edges in the bargain.  To do all this you have to increase the size of the oculars, that or go the Swarovision route with a very expensive uber engineered design and

Go easy on Leupold Big Smile .  That is not a poor design choice that needs get anybody fired.  The rage in binoculars lately is the flat field.  Not only flat but wide, not only flat and wide, but sharp to the edges in the bargain.  To do all this you have to increase the size of the oculars, that or go the Swarovision route with a very expensive uber engineered design and have a $2,000+ binocular.  But even the Swarovision has larger eye cups than the EL.

So when you try to give everybody what they want and stay in the McKinley price range for really good glass, great big oculars are a design consequence.  Ditto the ZEN Prime HD.
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Again, They are the same bino meaning same glass.

I have not used cabelas warranty on those binos but i have on other optics and products. They just replaced no questions asked.

Edited by supertool73 - June/25/2013 at 09:35
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the meostars have a great feels in the hands IMO     
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the flimsy covers that wont stay on the lens suck tho
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Yeah I guess I shouldn't be so hard on leupold. Someone should get fired is a phrase I use when I don't like something :). Thanks for the info. It's always nice to hear the real scoop behind the whys of products. It's too bad the guys selling the things don't know this stuff so they can tell me. I'm a newbie with bino stuff but i still feel like I know more about the products when I go into stores than the salesman does. Sadly.
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I got the new Pentax DCF ED 10x50's today. I have to say they are a great bino. I spent a little time glassing at distant trees (across town) and if I were glassing for game, I don't see how I would get a better glass.

If there is a better bino, they must be VERY GOOD.
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Originally posted by Demonical Demonical wrote:

I got the new Pentax DCF ED 10x50's today. I have to say they are a great bino.

Ten out of ten buyers, on Amazon, gave the Pentax DCF ED 10x50's a five star rating. ***** Thunbs Up



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Is that 5 out of 10... ?
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You can look it up for yourself on amazon. 
I prefer Porro prism binoculars especially those made in Japan. (i.e. Minox BD 10x44 BP) 8>)
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I'm thinking about Vortex Viper HD 8x42, Vanguard Endeavor ED 8,5x45,Hawke Frontier ED 8x43, Nikon??

Which one to choose?
under $ 600
 
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i saw the endeavors on a special from amazon for 200.00 the other day

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sorry looks like that is over.

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I finally bought the excellent Nikon HG 8 x 32, sharp as a "razor" to the edge of the image!

http://www.allbinos.com/allbinos_ranking-binoculars_ranking-8x32.html
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My price was only 750 $
 
 
 
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I'd go with the very best bino's you can afford. By the very best, I mean the clearest and brightest as well as a good warranty.

I don’t have unlimited funds but about 15 years ago or so, I was lucky enough to have bought a pair of Swarovoski SLC 7x42 binoculars. I think I paid $830.00, so that was a long time ago especially since SLC’s now cost $1800.00 & up! Way back then that $830.00 was my whole wad and it took a long time to save up that much and I was really worried that I’d be sorry -- but it’s the best money I ever spent.

At the time I hunted a lot in heavy cover, so thought a 7x would be best because of the wider field of view. Then about 5 years ago my son was going to take his first hunting trip with me and we were going to be hunting more open country and I wasn’t exactly flush with money, so I bought a budget bino for him to carry in the Leupold 10x40 Cascades. At the time, looking through them in the store the Cascades looked really good and I felt they were far clearer than an older 10x Leupold I’d had way back in the mid 80’s – which I sold some time ago.

Since that time I’ve hunted the wide open deserts where you can see for miles rather than yards and I can honestly say I can see more detail at a distance with my Swaro 7x than I can with the Leupold Cascade 10x bino’s! Even though I still have both bino’s, I always take my Swaros, even in the desert. I can also see better with the Swaro’s before dawn and just before total dark than I can with the naked eye -- a LOT better! Can’t do that with the Cascades!

Now if I compared both in a store I don’t think I’d see that much difference between them – maybe a little but not enough to warrant a $1500.00 price difference. But out in the wide open desert, the difference is obvious and I feel the $1500.00 difference is easily worth it.

Another issue is weight. The Sawro’s are a LOT heavier than the Cascades. I don’t remember the exact weights but I bet the Swaro’s are close to 30 oz. and the Cascade’s are closer to 20 oz. – so I’d assume I’d want to carry the lighter bino’s – especially since I’m getting older (67 years old). Nada – with a binocular harness rather than a neck strap I don’t even notice the extra weight.

So – I’d say if you’re hunting the densely forested east or the rainforest Cascades, then a lesser quality bino would suffice, like my Cascades -- in the $300.00 price range. However, if you’re hunting the wide open west where you can see for miles, then you’re better off saving up for a high quality bino – even if it takes years!

The Swarovoski SLC 7x42 binoculars are the best thing I’ve ever spent money on – bar none! You can usually stalk closer but if you can't see it in the first place you're out of luck!

I’ve now got a high quality 10x bino on my wish list.

 


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Ended up buying a Vortex Viper HD 10x42 bino's. I was just walking through my local hardware store and they were in a case for the amazing price of 489.00. I couldn't believe it so I bought them. I've never seen them anywhere for less that 550.00 and that's only after talking down the local vortex dealer. Anyways I have been using them for scouting for the hunts this year and I just love them. Almost everything I could ever want in a pair of bino's. Originally I tried not to buy them because I have a 6-24 Viper PST HD scope on my rifle and didn't want to be a brand monger but for the price I couldn't walk away. 
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I'm looking in the same 600$ range, and thinking viper hd first, meopta meostar, or McKinley. 10x42 size. I work on a hunting ranch and they will be used for picking out mule deer in the desert mountains, and seeing if they are management deer or have potential. 
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The McKinley's were on sale the last time I looked. Down to around $400 or so. That seems like a no-brainer as long as the eyecups fit your face.
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what about meopro 10x42 for 450?
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bump :)
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what about it?
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