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I spent some time digging through all of the available info on the Z6/Z7 launch and it is a little bipolar, as is fairly common for Nikon.

I think Nikon engineers, did a much better job than Nikon marketing people did, which is also not uncommon for Nikon.

There is a bunch of really weird product decisions there, but overall it is more good than bad.

I think Nikon is going to succeed with these despite their intrepid marketing department doing their best to screw things up.

That having been said, if you are in the market for a new camera and you are looking at these, I suggest you wait just a little bit until the first adopters get their hands on them.  

Also, while these cameras are going to work very well with legacy lenses, expect the autofocus in low light to be a little weak.  If low light is one of the things you do, expect to buy one of the new lenses native to the Z mount.  On the good side, both 35mm and 50mm primes look extremely promising.

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Only issue with the native lenses at the moment are non of them are fast. Their solutions will not be available until next year. 
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It will take time.

Be mindful of the F/1.8 primes though.  I expect them to have the best corner performance of all Nikon lenses to date.

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I will say that if I were a dedicated Nikon shooter, I would be slowly divesting my F-mount lenses and replacing them with newer stuff as it arrives.

Nikon seems to have intentionally hamstrung some things in their AF, presumably in order to keep their DSLRs alive for a little longer.

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I won't be an early adopter - I'm going to have to limp along for a few years with the D850 I picked up last fall. 

As for the legacy lenses, I'm finding that just a handful of my older lenses live up to the potential of the 46MP sensor that the D850 shares with the Z cameras.  So, even with a flawless F/Z adapter, many of the older "legacy" lenses may not measure up well on the mirrorless cameras anyway.


Kind of a conundrum, I don't have many G or E lenses and although the 105mm 1.4 looks pretty tempting, I doubt that I'll be picking up any new F-mount lenses now.  The number of Z lenses scheduled for release looks pretty limited though and the range of focal lengths that will be offered runs from 14mm to only 200mm.  I wonder if longer Z telephoto lenses would have to be pretty huge.  The planned 58mm 0.95 Noct sure stands out and looks pretty intriguing but, at an estimated $6,000 MSRP, I'll never see one.  My cherished 58mm 1.2 Noct works quite well with the 46MP sensor anyway and hopefully would cross over to the mirrorless world too.


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For telephoto lenses there will be no practical size difference between F-mount and Z-mount lenses.  As you pointed out, not all lenses can perform to the full potential of a very high resolution sensor like in Z7 or D850.

There will be a significant difference in the design of wide angle and low f/# lenses.

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Both of those cameras have variations in the sub-menu and you don't have to shoot at maximum. You could change the megapixel ration down to DX format.

I'm not saying that I would do that, because I like having that available as an option. 

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Originally posted by Skylar McMahon Skylar McMahon wrote:

Both of those cameras have variations in the sub-menu and you don't have to shoot at maximum. You could change the megapixel ration down to DX format.

I'm not saying that I would do that, because I like having that available as an option. 


That will help a little, but not all that much.  With older lenses it is not just a matter of corner performance, but simply insufficient resolution for the pixel pitch.

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