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    Posted: September/21/2017 at 07:07
 This is a stock I have got for a 28 Nosler build I had built. The builder did a fantastic job on the barreled action and its a nice work of art That shoots really well.

Any ways short story long I had some stock troubles and had to grab another. So I'm bedding it and going to try to keep this post updated as when I'm able to work on it. Its mine so it get last priority with other customers stuff, I'm also going to keep it really simple as I'm lazy and hate to type and or spell.

action and stock, you can see where its making contact.


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Ok so I know my base stuff and what needs to come out to give me a good solid bedding platform and not be to thin in places and to think in others. Now when I milled this out Its not pretty but the bedding will cover it so it KEWL!!

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The numbers from what I took out and where and it will give me a good think solid bedding in the channel. the depth wasn't a concern as much as the width, so I didn't measure that. right now 12 $1 bills will slide from crown to chamber with ease.

chamber area
started      milled       took out
1.3535      1.14705     0.0117 
mid way
1.0665      1.1405      0.074
crown side
1.0335        1.4705     0.437


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Great post! 

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Interesting. Just do that I understand: you are needing the barrel only? Not the action?
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What bedding compound do you use?  
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If you get a chance, Show a pic of the bit you used to do the milling. And did you mill it on a hand feed mill or a CNC?

Or did you use the ole

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I use a compound made by ans precision.

 I'm only bedding the recoil lug and the barrel channel. The action will not be bedded as it sits on an aluminum bedding block and has 97% contact and is straight with the barrel channel.

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Originally posted by Sgt. D Sgt. D wrote:

If you get a chance, Show a pic of the bit you used to do the milling. And did you mill it on a hand feed mill or a CNC?

Or did you use the ole



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 I do use those stock channel tools on wood stocks but they chip and grab to much on composite stuff.

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Way cool! I'm always interested in seeing how different people attack bedding jobs depending on the components. I couldn't tell from the photos...what stock is that? The barrel channel inletting looks exceptionally clean.
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Very curious to see how it goes.

A couple of times when I tried bedding the barrel, it did not work all that great for me.  It was with wooden stocks, though, so that may have been the problem.

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Just a thought, but he may not be planning to actually bed the barrel, but instead use bedding compound to fill in excess gaps in the barrel channel and give the stock a nice even gap all around between the forend and barrel. You wrap tape around the barrel, then apply release agent to the taped barrel, bed, then carefully remove the excess epoxy that squeezes out around the barrel/stock gap. Then when you remove the tape from the barrel, you have a free float gap that is consistently the width of the tape all the way around. Sand the edge of the cured epoxy and stock together carefully with a sanding block to maintain a nice, flat surface, then refinish over it, and you get a nice looking, clean and even minimum gap all around that looks very professionally done. I've used this technique quite a bit when fitting barreled actions to stocks with forend channels a little too large for the barrel profile.

Then again, he may indeed be planning to full length bed the barrel. Sometimes that works well, sometimes it doesn't. I tend to bed only the first 1.5"-2" of the barrel forward of the receiver...the straight shank portion, and float the remaining length of the barrel channel. I've had the best luck doing it that way.
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This will be floated from the recoil lug forward( i use 10mil tape 2 passes), but it will make the stock have a little more weight and give it a more pro look and be more repeatable when the barrel heats up to not touch the stock and throw things off.

This is a grayboe stock.
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I see.  That makes sense.

In my experimentation, I found that with modern closed top actions, it seems to be best to just keep the barrel floating.

However, with older actions that have a little more flex (Like Mosins and Mausers) I bed a couple of inches of barrel in front of the recoil lug.

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Nice looking stock from what I can tell. It looks a little like a McM A5 from the view in the photos. If you can, post some pics of the side view. I've been thinking about trying a Grayboe for a future project.

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I check in on their website every once in a while to see if they have expanded their options.   While the price looks good and the designs are attractive, they only support Remington actions.  Since I won't touch one with a ten foot pole, I get to pay twice more for the same stock, except with McMillan name on it.

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you could buy you a big horn action that has a rem footprint and you can have your fancy floating bolt of a savage.  Wink
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Originally posted by koshkin koshkin wrote:

I see.  That makes sense.

In my experimentation, I found that with modern closed top actions, it seems to be best to just keep the barrel floating.

However, with older actions that have a little more flex (Like Mosins and Mausers) I bed a couple of inches of barrel in front of the recoil lug.

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With the Swiss K-31 I had, it was recommended to bed the barrel an inch or two forward of the action. And to pre-stress the front of the barrel with a couple winds of electrical tape. I found after bedding the rifle, which already shot really well, shot just about the same. But I learned a few things and didn't ruin it.
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I always end up bedding the recoil lug area on Rem 700's and synthetic (HS Precision), just 'cuz I hate that slop between the recoil lug and the recess area. 
Also improves the "off centered-ness" of the barrel in the channel, that HS stocks are renowned for.  

I have experienced differences in improved accuracy from slightly better, to insignificant.       
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I'll bed recoil lug only if accuracy isn't where I need it to be or want it when I have an aluminum bedding block..... only had to do it in 1 that it improved greatly in.
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stock is prepped and ready. now onto the barreled action.




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Taped and sprayed with release agent


Bedding applied to stock


barreled action places slow and genitally into stock






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Originally posted by Bigdaddy0381 Bigdaddy0381 wrote:


barreled action places slow and genitally into stock

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Originally posted by Bigdaddy0381 Bigdaddy0381 wrote:


barreled action places slow and genitally into stock

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