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Topic: Nosler bullets
Posted By: pyro6999
Subject: Nosler bullets
Date Posted: January/31/2007 at 09:25
Anybody used the nosler accubonds and how did they work for you??

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Posted By: RifleDude
Date Posted: January/31/2007 at 13:29
I use them for deer and I absolutely love 'em.  I've found them to be as accurate as ballistic tips, but hold together far better on big game due to the thicker jacket and bonded core.  I've been able to get them to shoot extremely well in several of my hunting rifles so far.

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Money can't buy happiness... but it's much more comfortable to cry in a Porsche than on a bicycle.


Posted By: pyro6999
Date Posted: January/31/2007 at 13:32
so if i used them in any of my three white tail set ups i would be happy with the end results?

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They call me "Boots"
375H&H Mag: Yeah, it kills stuff "extra dead"

343 we will never forget

God Bless Chris Ledoux
"good ride cowboy"


Posted By: RifleDude
Date Posted: January/31/2007 at 13:37
Provided your rifle likes them, I predict most definitely!

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Ted


Money can't buy happiness... but it's much more comfortable to cry in a Porsche than on a bicycle.


Posted By: pyro6999
Date Posted: January/31/2007 at 13:44
i havent ever had good luck with nosler bullets in any caliber, but i will give these a real honest try.

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They call me "Boots"
375H&H Mag: Yeah, it kills stuff "extra dead"

343 we will never forget

God Bless Chris Ledoux
"good ride cowboy"


Posted By: cheaptrick
Date Posted: January/31/2007 at 13:51

I tried the 180gr. Accubond's with a .300 Win mag and they were accurate out of my rifle.

I never shot any game with them though, so I can't comment on that aspect.



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Posted By: pyro6999
Date Posted: January/31/2007 at 13:53

open the door on sunday and poke a illinois bear

 

 

go colts!!



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They call me "Boots"
375H&H Mag: Yeah, it kills stuff "extra dead"

343 we will never forget

God Bless Chris Ledoux
"good ride cowboy"


Posted By: cheaptrick
Date Posted: January/31/2007 at 13:55
Originally posted by pyro6999 pyro6999 wrote:

open the door on sunday and poke a illinois bear

 

 

go colts!!

 

I hope your wrong, my friend.....



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If at first you don't secede...try..try again.


Posted By: pyro6999
Date Posted: January/31/2007 at 13:57
peyton gets a ring now he retires earlier!

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They call me "Boots"
375H&H Mag: Yeah, it kills stuff "extra dead"

343 we will never forget

God Bless Chris Ledoux
"good ride cowboy"


Posted By: RifleDude
Date Posted: January/31/2007 at 16:59
Originally posted by cheaptrick cheaptrick wrote:

I tried the 180gr. Accubond's with a .300 Win mag and they were accurate out of my rifle.

I never shot any game with them though, so I can't comment on that aspect.

 

So far, I've shot about 5 deer and 10 feral hogs with Accubonds in various rifles, and I've had the same result each time:  dead animal with small entry hole & exit hole about 3X the size of the entry.  I've shot them out of my 7WSM, 7mm-08, .25-06, and .300 Win mag, and all have shot as well or better with the Accubond than with any other bullet I've tried.  I couldn't ask for more than that!



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Ted


Money can't buy happiness... but it's much more comfortable to cry in a Porsche than on a bicycle.


Posted By: Trinidad
Date Posted: January/31/2007 at 18:22
Nosler's are my preffered hunting bullets, both the NP and Accu. I could not be happier with the performance out of my rifles so far.


Posted By: pyro6999
Date Posted: January/31/2007 at 20:12
what kind of speed level are you guys seeing the best accuracy at?

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They call me "Boots"
375H&H Mag: Yeah, it kills stuff "extra dead"

343 we will never forget

God Bless Chris Ledoux
"good ride cowboy"


Posted By: CWPINST
Date Posted: January/31/2007 at 20:14
I just tried (target only) the Accubond for the first time a few weeks ago.  Accuracy was great in my 30-06, but to be truthful, I have had excellent success with Ballistic Tips.  I have kept records over the last 15 years.  To date I have taken 64 deer with the NBT, in various calibers but mostly 7mm in the 120 and 140gr, and .257 in 100gr.  I had exit wounds on all but 8 of those deer.  That is a pretty darn good success rate with a bullet that some consider too fragile.  For interesting reading on bullet effectiveness, read this link.  It was written by our chief deer biologist who conducted a several year study.  http://www.scilowcountry.org/cedar_knoll_deer_study.htm


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If it ain't accurate at long distance, the fact that it is flat shooting is irrelevant.


Posted By: pyro6999
Date Posted: January/31/2007 at 20:20
i have used the ballistic tips and they make way bigger of a hole on the exit side than i like to see, course i went to nosler's web page and it said they dont recommend using the ballistic tip for hunting on calibers.308 and larger, which i used my .300 winm on mule deer and it wasnt pretty, i know they are very accurate though, i had some ballistic silvertips for my 25 wssm and my 300wsm and for some reason the factory round wouldnt group well enough for my liking so they just got wasted on paper, never shot an animal with either.

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They call me "Boots"
375H&H Mag: Yeah, it kills stuff "extra dead"

343 we will never forget

God Bless Chris Ledoux
"good ride cowboy"


Posted By: wricksmith
Date Posted: January/31/2007 at 20:55
I have tried 180gr Accubonds out of my 300WSM and have had better results on game with the Partition.


Posted By: pyro6999
Date Posted: January/31/2007 at 20:57
really tell me about them, if you would

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They call me "Boots"
375H&H Mag: Yeah, it kills stuff "extra dead"

343 we will never forget

God Bless Chris Ledoux
"good ride cowboy"


Posted By: RifleDude
Date Posted: February/01/2007 at 08:56

Originally posted by pyro6999 pyro6999 wrote:

i have used the ballistic tips and they make way bigger of a hole on the exit side than i like to see, course i went to nosler's web page and it said they dont recommend using the ballistic tip for hunting on calibers.308 and larger, which i used my .300 winm on mule deer and it wasnt pretty, i know they are very accurate though, i had some ballistic silvertips for my 25 wssm and my 300wsm and for some reason the factory round wouldnt group well enough for my liking so they just got wasted on paper, never shot an animal with either.

 

I've had good success with Ballistic Tips on quite a few deer as well.  Dead is dead and the end result is what counts.  My only issue with the BTs is they tended to destroy more meat than I wanted.  The Accubond virtually duplicates if not improves on the BTs accuracy while not expanding as violently and stays together better.  Admittedly, this probably isn't all that critical on a small whitetail, but I think they work a little better on the feral hogs I frequently hunt.



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Ted


Money can't buy happiness... but it's much more comfortable to cry in a Porsche than on a bicycle.


Posted By: pyro6999
Date Posted: February/01/2007 at 10:03
i dont like it when a bullet hits ribs and blows a hole big enough to throw a football through it, i do agree with you that dead is dead, but i am out there for the food and if i can use a bullet to save some meat, three or four shoulders a year is a lot of wasted meat. if the accubond does stay together like you say then i think i will try them out.

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They call me "Boots"
375H&H Mag: Yeah, it kills stuff "extra dead"

343 we will never forget

God Bless Chris Ledoux
"good ride cowboy"


Posted By: pyro6999
Date Posted: February/01/2007 at 12:32
i understand that the tsx performs very well what i am not impressed with is the price, really $30 for 50 bullets, no way, i dont care if they have 100% guarantee on the box, i can buy 2 boxes of factory ammo for that and i dont have to spend anytime at the bench, if they made there price more competitive i would be all over that, also im not so sure that they are the answer for white tail, the way these are built they look like they would go through a deer without any expansion, i want some expansion i dont want ballistic tip expansion but i dont want a .308 hole going in and a .308 hole going out either. and im not saying that the tsx is a bad bullet in any way shape or form, but im not sure they are right for my purposes, i might think about them for black bear but i'm not sold on them for white tail.

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They call me "Boots"
375H&H Mag: Yeah, it kills stuff "extra dead"

343 we will never forget

God Bless Chris Ledoux
"good ride cowboy"


Posted By: RifleDude
Date Posted: February/01/2007 at 12:59
Nice buck, Slim!

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Ted


Money can't buy happiness... but it's much more comfortable to cry in a Porsche than on a bicycle.


Posted By: pyro6999
Date Posted: February/01/2007 at 13:00
slim didnt shoot that he got it off of barnes web page. that guys younger and better looking than slim!!

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They call me "Boots"
375H&H Mag: Yeah, it kills stuff "extra dead"

343 we will never forget

God Bless Chris Ledoux
"good ride cowboy"


Posted By: pyro6999
Date Posted: February/01/2007 at 13:11
i guess if they only make a .50 caliber hole in a deer i could live with that,  i dont have any horses or atv's or guides i pay, but i only work 9-10 months a year not counting deer season, so money is tight at times, so i cant justify me spending 100 after sales tax on 150 bullets when i can buy 600 bullets for that same price, and im not arguing that one bullet is better than another, and i know that the price of copper is crazy right now, but i cant see spending that kind of money on just bullets, i could buy 300 bullets and 3 pounds of powder for $100. if i am feeling really rich some time i will spend the $100 and buy a box of 50 for all three of my favorite deer rifles and try them out.

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They call me "Boots"
375H&H Mag: Yeah, it kills stuff "extra dead"

343 we will never forget

God Bless Chris Ledoux
"good ride cowboy"


Posted By: Trinidad
Date Posted: February/01/2007 at 13:29

Originally posted by pyro6999 pyro6999 wrote:

what kind of speed level are you guys seeing the best accuracy at?

 

3175 on a 7MM 160gr nolsler NP.and 3140 on a 160gr Nosler Accu.

2540 on a 375 300gr Nosler Accu and 2700 on a 260gr Nosler NP.

 



Posted By: pyro6999
Date Posted: February/01/2007 at 13:30
.375 thats a cannon my friend!

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They call me "Boots"
375H&H Mag: Yeah, it kills stuff "extra dead"

343 we will never forget

God Bless Chris Ledoux
"good ride cowboy"


Posted By: pyro6999
Date Posted: February/01/2007 at 13:35

i've been reading the bullet reviews on reloadersnest.com and so far they have had positive review on the accubond's i didnt see any negative feedback from anybody, so i think i will be three boxes for my three deer rifles and try them out.



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They call me "Boots"
375H&H Mag: Yeah, it kills stuff "extra dead"

343 we will never forget

God Bless Chris Ledoux
"good ride cowboy"


Posted By: Trinidad
Date Posted: February/01/2007 at 13:36

The .375 H&H in a well executed action and stock is one of the smoothest hard hitting calibers for big game and dangerous game IMO. Next on my list is a .416 for dangerous game and I am done with hunting rifles, I am not into .50's or above.



Posted By: pyro6999
Date Posted: February/01/2007 at 13:37
416 what? remington, rigby

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They call me "Boots"
375H&H Mag: Yeah, it kills stuff "extra dead"

343 we will never forget

God Bless Chris Ledoux
"good ride cowboy"


Posted By: Trinidad
Date Posted: February/01/2007 at 13:47

A rigby with a Mauser action, no scope, It will be something like this but with 3 tier rear sights and a hood on the front sight and a harder less fancy wood.

 

 

 



Posted By: pyro6999
Date Posted: February/01/2007 at 13:49
the .416 is an animal, i know a guy who has one in a t/c encore,he uses it to shoot white tail deer, he has yet to have on get away, but the bruise on his shoulder has yet to go away too!!

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They call me "Boots"
375H&H Mag: Yeah, it kills stuff "extra dead"

343 we will never forget

God Bless Chris Ledoux
"good ride cowboy"


Posted By: Trinidad
Date Posted: February/01/2007 at 13:50
My cousin has a Dakota in .416 that he says he will lend me when I go to africa, but I would much prefer and feel confident with my own rifle.


Posted By: pyro6999
Date Posted: February/01/2007 at 13:51
if its a dakota m10 i dont blame you there you only get one shot.

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They call me "Boots"
375H&H Mag: Yeah, it kills stuff "extra dead"

343 we will never forget

God Bless Chris Ledoux
"good ride cowboy"


Posted By: Trinidad
Date Posted: February/01/2007 at 13:51

Originally posted by pyro6999 pyro6999 wrote:

the .416 is an animal, i know a guy who has one in a t/c encore,he uses it to shoot white tail deer, he has yet to have on get away, but the bruise on his shoulder has yet to go away too!!

 

.416 for whitetail.



Posted By: pyro6999
Date Posted: February/01/2007 at 13:53
thats what i said to him but he just laughed and said why not?? i cant argue with a guy who wants to do stupid stuff like that.

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They call me "Boots"
375H&H Mag: Yeah, it kills stuff "extra dead"

343 we will never forget

God Bless Chris Ledoux
"good ride cowboy"


Posted By: pyro6999
Date Posted: February/01/2007 at 13:56
i also heard about but cannot confirm it but i heard rumor there was another guy around that carried a 465.500 nitro for whitetail thats worse yet

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They call me "Boots"
375H&H Mag: Yeah, it kills stuff "extra dead"

343 we will never forget

God Bless Chris Ledoux
"good ride cowboy"


Posted By: Trinidad
Date Posted: February/01/2007 at 14:00
Unbelievable,oh well each to thier own.


Posted By: pyro6999
Date Posted: February/01/2007 at 14:03
i guess i can compare that too the people who live around here that own snowmobiles, lately we havent had stellar winters for snowmobiles and so sometimes when we get a few inches even if there is still a lot of bare ground showing they get that itch to use there toys, i guess thats somewhat understandable, but yet not exactly preferable,

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They call me "Boots"
375H&H Mag: Yeah, it kills stuff "extra dead"

343 we will never forget

God Bless Chris Ledoux
"good ride cowboy"


Posted By: Trinidad
Date Posted: February/01/2007 at 14:42

People do the starangest things sometimes like spend $700 for a rifle and $40 for a scope.

Buy a Swarovski and use Weaver mounts. etc.................

 



Posted By: pyro6999
Date Posted: February/01/2007 at 15:05
its funny that it usually works out that way too, i cant think of a single instance in my life where i have seen a really really nice rifle with a cheapo bushnell banner or tasco scope on it.

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They call me "Boots"
375H&H Mag: Yeah, it kills stuff "extra dead"

343 we will never forget

God Bless Chris Ledoux
"good ride cowboy"


Posted By: Trinidad
Date Posted: February/01/2007 at 15:12
I have seen some of the stangest things before with set-ups. I ounce saw a poor guy at the range with X-High see through mounts on a standard factory 10/22 and a 8-32x40 BSA and wonder why he could not get on paper.


Posted By: pyro6999
Date Posted: February/01/2007 at 15:14
                              

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They call me "Boots"
375H&H Mag: Yeah, it kills stuff "extra dead"

343 we will never forget

God Bless Chris Ledoux
"good ride cowboy"


Posted By: pyro6999
Date Posted: February/01/2007 at 15:20
i think the best one i ever saw was a browning abolt 7mm stainless barrel and a bushnell red dot sight on it

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They call me "Boots"
375H&H Mag: Yeah, it kills stuff "extra dead"

343 we will never forget

God Bless Chris Ledoux
"good ride cowboy"


Posted By: Trinidad
Date Posted: February/01/2007 at 15:24
Here in California it is scary,there is not a whole lot of good knowledgable shooters. There is either very good or very bad with few inbetween. The shops that sell sporting goods are even worse sometimes. There are very few just good gun shops left in California now due to the laws. It is home to USOpticsthough.


Posted By: pyro6999
Date Posted: February/01/2007 at 15:31

i really hate going to places that sell guns and scopes, a lot of the times i can tell them more about the products than they can tell another customer, i dont dare ask them a question, cause if i  dont know the answer a lot of the time they wont have a clue, i remember one time i was at a fairly sizable place buying some factory ammo, and the 25 wssm hadnt been out long, i had one of the first m70 25 wssm in the state of mn i was told, but anyways i went to look at the selection of factory ammo, and i had a couple of boxes in my hand they were $20 a box so not bad at all, and a salesman from the adjoing firearms dept saw me walked over and asked me if "i was finding what i needed" i said yes, he saw my boxes and said are you expecting a rifle soon or are you dreaming and buying shells now, i said no i have the rifle already its sitting at home i needed some shells for it, he looked at me with mass confusion on his face and said what do you mean you already have one at home, we dont even have one of those between our 5 stores so i doubt you have one, i said ok well sucks to be you, but i know i got one at home, he was like what ever man. funny i thought.



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They call me "Boots"
375H&H Mag: Yeah, it kills stuff "extra dead"

343 we will never forget

God Bless Chris Ledoux
"good ride cowboy"


Posted By: Trinidad
Date Posted: February/01/2007 at 15:44

I stay away from all of them and buy strictly online for some time now. This led me to this great forum,so now I buy for my familily and I and for my customers and chat with all of you online on my latest.  It has worked out very well so far.



Posted By: pyro6999
Date Posted: February/01/2007 at 16:06
i buy most of my stuff from a small mom and pop type place the guy gives me stuff at his cost most of the time and the people he employs are very optic and fire arms savy, so i dont run into any problems.

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They call me "Boots"
375H&H Mag: Yeah, it kills stuff "extra dead"

343 we will never forget

God Bless Chris Ledoux
"good ride cowboy"


Posted By: Dolphin
Date Posted: February/03/2007 at 09:42

Originally posted by pyro6999 pyro6999 wrote:

i have used the ballistic tips and they make way bigger of a hole on the exit side than i like to see, course i went to nosler's web page and it said they dont recommend using the ballistic tip for hunting on calibers.308 and larger, which i used my .300 winm on mule deer and it wasnt pretty, i know they are very accurate though, i had some ballistic silvertips for my 25 wssm and my 300wsm and for some reason the factory round wouldnt group well enough for my liking so they just got wasted on paper, never shot an animal with either.

I use the Nosler BTs on my high powered Wbys. for long range hunting, so by the time they reach the target, velocity and energy has diminshed.  But, I would agree, in larger calibers for shorter distances, you are right.  What I am doing is sort of, ballistically reproducing a shorter distance scenario.  Have not heard from you in a while on the pm.  I have been busy and not been able to post much.



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