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Rabbit hole - NXS, Toric, Leupy or Swaro?

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote Rancid Coolaid Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January/18/2019 at 15:02
 No offense was taken, but I wanted to be sure my comments were not taken within a context of "he has no idea what he is talking about", as I do, just not as much experience as many here.

My lack of experience in that regard is a choice, and is based on an abundance of bad experience back in the day.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote Kickboxer Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January/18/2019 at 15:27
I still have reservations with Leupold scopes, though I do believe they have made progress in recent years... depending less on older technology and design methodologies.  I still don't "depend" on a Leupold, but do own a couple.  I have a "hog scope" mounted right now, have spent a little time shooting with 4, 5, and 6 models.  They seem OK, but I'm still not completely convinced.  
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote Urimaginaryfrnd Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January/18/2019 at 15:32
From that list the Nightforce would be my pick but I tend more toward tactical scopes.  But this doesnt look bad:

Swarovski 3.5-18x50 X5i 30mm Riflescope

Matte, Illuminated 4WX, 1/4 MOA, Side Focus

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Only 1 left

Regularly $2,799.00

$2,399.95


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Thanks for the additional feedback on the Leupold option.  Urimaginaryfrnd - the x5i does look good, but if I look at another $1k to the range, I've probably got to consider some other options.  Although it seems to me that I'm a masochist on this effort, at some point I will need/want to pull the trigger.  Smile
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After all of my experimenting , I personally feel like Schmidt and Bender makes the best scopes. The glass is as good as it gets. But the overall quality , smoothness of the power ring, positive click adjustments, etc, is the best IMO! I still have some Swarovski’s that I like a lot, but I think SB is the best. Their low light performance is awesome and the illuminated are super nice.

I just got a great deal on a 3-12x42 mil dot and put it on my Kimber 280 Ackley. I used to have a Cooper Excalibur 30-06, they are definitely shooters!! I hit some steel plates at 800 yrds with it. That’s the farthest I have ever shot.
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Originally posted by cbm cbm wrote:

After all of my experimenting , I personally feel like Schmidt and Bender makes the best scopes. The glass is as good as it gets. But the overall quality , smoothness of the power ring, positive click adjustments, etc, is the best IMO! I still have some Swarovski’s that I like a lot, but I think SB is the best. Their low light performance is awesome and the illuminated are super nice.

I just got a great deal on a 3-12x42 mil dot and put it on my Kimber 280 Ackley. I used to have a Cooper Excalibur 30-06, they are definitely shooters!! I hit some steel plates at 800 yrds with it. That’s the farthest I have ever shot.

Thanks cbm.  I looked through the S&B site and then did some price checks and I *think* that the comparable models are all materially more expensive, even on the SL - but I may have missed something (the naming conventions for the models is not straight forward - to me at least).
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S&B is very pricey and considered on the heavy side to me but I spot and stalk hunt.
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They are a little heavy. But the 3-12x42 is 19 oz so not too bad, to me. And they are really good in low light for a 42mm.
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I bet... and that’s the power range I would consider (with illumination) if I bought one.    
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote Urimaginaryfrnd Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January/19/2019 at 19:53
consider exit eye pupil size  objective divided by the power setting = exit eye pupil size in mm.
  • Leupold VX-5HD 3-15x56 -   bright at 8x and below in low light
  • Swaro Z5 3.5-18x44 -           bright at 6x and below in low light
  • Toric 4-20x50 -                      bright at 7x and below in low light
  • NF NXS 3.5-15x50 -               bright at 7x and below in low light   ....Thumbs Up

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