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    Posted: May/27/2009 at 12:14

I'm looking to buy a Nikon Monarch or a new Leupold VXIII. Which one would you recommend? I want a scope that is clear at dust.

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Either one will do the job. The new VX3s from what I understand are a little better in low light.
 
However, Leupold has the advantage with more scope selections in variable magnification ranges, fixed powers, reticle choices and sizes. There are alot of selections from Leupold to better match the scope porportionally to your rifle, to better or properly match the scope to the cartridge you`re using and to better match your overall type of terrain and hunting style.  And imo, the VX3 Leupy scopes, asthetically, are the best looking.
 
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Significant price difference betrween the two.  What is your budget and intended application?
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I don't support him. That has nothing to do with the tpoic I posted anyway.
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Originally posted by bama bama wrote:

I don't support him. That has nothing to do with the tpoic I posted anyway.
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You got me pretty good. I didn't know when I did my login name I would have to worry about him. He has along way to go to turn this country around.
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Originally posted by bama bama wrote:

You got me pretty good. I didn't know when I did my login name I would have to worry about him. He has along way to go to turn this country around.
He is one reason why we have such a long way to go.
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Now that we got you softened up Barry what dollar amount did you have in mind?
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Your right, he seems to not have a clue on what to do. Which most common sense people already knew that before the election.
My price range is $400.00 to $800.00
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$400 to $800? .................Ok! What rifle and what cartridge is the scope going on? Terrain? Game? Hunting ranges? Etc and etc!.......Thinking
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200-300 yds. whitetail, mule deer.
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I`ll chime in later! Gots to head to downtown LA now, beat the traffic and get my Laker tickets for tonites game!....Basketball.................Camaro
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Have you considered a Zeiss Conquest?  It's within your budget and better than the Leupold or Nikon IMO.
 


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I haven't. I will buying a scope for my new 7mm.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote lucytuma Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May/27/2009 at 15:06
These are all pretty decent scopes, I have a personal affection for Leupold, but there sure isn't anything wrong with most of the scopes in this $400-$600 catagory.
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You may want to check the Sample List as well - http://www.samplelist.com/
There are a number of Nikon Monarch 2.5-10x42 on there for $300
Also Zeiss Conquests 3-9x40 for $369
 
Many other brands too.
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I'm sure B O would loan any of the American owned firearms companies bail out money.The new Leupold VX3 is slightly better than the Monarch in low light.I would pick the Leupold for quality and better CS.
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For low light, I would prefer the Conquest but the VX-III is very good.  IMHO, you probably would be well served by something in the 3.5-10X variable range.  You have not stated any scope size or weight criteria.
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Originally posted by bama bama wrote:

200-300 yds. whitetail, mule deer.
.............A 7mm/08? A 7mm Rem Mag?...........Either cartridge even out to 400-500 yards (beyond your estimated range)would do very well with a 2x8 or a 2.5x8.
 
Well within your price range. You don`t necessarily need to spend up to your max dollar amount to get a great scope!
 
Leupold VX3 2.5-8x36
Zeiss Conquest 2-8x32
 
Versus the 3x9`s or the 2.5x10s, which are perhaps two of the best all around for hunting variable magnifications, I have a deep liking for the 2x8s and 2.5x8s. They are a little better on the low end for shorter range woods work with a wider FOV, while still giving the magnification needed out to the longer ranges just like the 3x9s and the 2.5x10s. They are generally a little more compact (shorter) depending on the scope and lighter than either as well.
 
Remember this too! A few if not most hunters, including myself, will seldom if ever use more than 6x for our longest of hunting shots. The more you magnify your scope onto a target, the more the scope wobble will be. We all have it. Excessive wobble or movement delays your shot requiring more settling time. When your brain sees (via your eyes first) less wobble or movement through the scope, you are more apt to fire your shot with greater certainty while taking less time.
 
To better reference my point with regards to scope wobble, there is a video with Wayne Van Zwoll that I need to find. I can`t remember where it is, so I have to go find it. After I do, then I`ll reference it on my next post here on this thread.
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Here`s where that video by Wayne Van Zwoll is.
 
"shootingtimes.com"
video section and click "view all"
click onto "optics" (upper right)
See video "Variable vs Low Power Fixed Scopes"
 
He prefers the fixed scope while many prefer the variable. But aside from that, listen to what he says regarding scope wobble.
 
For hunting purposes on deer sized animals and larger (except for long range small varmit hunting, long range paper punching or unless one has eye problems), a 5x or 6x on the top end, is all the magnification one should need.....Wink 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote 1911man Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May/29/2009 at 08:19
Leupold VX -3 or Bushnell 4200 Elite, they are the best scopes in this price range. As mentioned before Leupold has the very best customer service in the optics business. They rarely need repair, but when you do they fix it fast and free!!!!!
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