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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote tahqua Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August/23/2018 at 14:52
I think that one looks fantastic. I like it far better than ones with engraving.
To heck with that metal checkering on a shooter.
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Rancid you could get one of your beloved Glocks case colored. 








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Flipping gross!
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote RifleDude Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August/23/2018 at 15:12
Originally posted by tahqua tahqua wrote:

So, would case coloring hold up to holster wear?


The case hardening part holds up, but the colors that the process imparts onto the surface doesn’t go very deep and isn't very wear resistant at all. For this reason, it’s best used on parts that won’t get a lot of abrasive wear. Holsters are very hard on the case colors.

This is one reason that Turnbull sprays a protective clear coat over their case color work, the other reason being that the clear coat makes the colors more vivid looking.
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One thing that is very important to consider with color case hardening... there seems to be a belief that you can do the process on just any ol' steel, and this isn't the case. 

Color case hardening, as its name indicates, is a heat treat process, a more traditional form of case-hardening that uses natural organic sources of carbon for carburizing the skin of the part such as bone, wood charcoal, and leather. Modern methods use carburizing compounds that produce more of a gray colored surface. This process is done to create a hard outer "skin" or "case" for surface wear resistance while maintaining a softer, ductile core for toughness. Mild, low carbon steels are best for color case hardening/ modern case hardening because they can diffuse additional carbon into the surface without becoming too brittle.

If you try to color case harden a modern chrome moly steel that has already been hardened, such as 4140 quenched and tempered, you run the risk of destroying the temper, making the part excessively brittle, and cause warpage and/or cracking. This is why companies who do color case hardening will not do it to some modern guns, and why the process was used a lot on antique guns that used mild steels. You run the same risks of brittleness and warping with parts that have very thin cross sections. You can still color caseharden a modern chrome moly steel, but you have to really know what you're doing and tightly control the process to avoid destroying the part's mechanical properties, and the part geometry has to be carefully considered, with thin cross sections to be avoided.

Many of the modern firearms that have a "case color" finish (some Ruger Vaquero revolvers, for example) are not "real" color casehardened but instead are simulated finishes done chemically.
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 My eventual heirloom piece will be color case hardened frame and a dep blue slide (I know there are differences in bluing process and result, I will be going for what looks best, as it will not be a shooter, but a looker.  I have plenty of shooters.)

I actually asked Turnbull a few years back if they would color case harden a HiPower frame, and they said no.  I have a blued Novak HiPower that is freak'in artwork, but the frame isn't built like a 1911, so they said no go.

On color case hardening a Glock: lipstick on a pig.  Blasphemy!  But such is the nature of freedom.

And I have seen a few color case hardened 1911s that were daily carry guns, they were much more case hardened than "color" after awhile.  As said above, the color doesn't go deep, and it wears pretty quickly in a holster.

Color case harden a Glock, damn man, now I need some brain bleach, that's just wrong!
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