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    Posted: March/27/2016 at 14:24
Glad to know you are becoming more satisfied with your purchase. Hope that it will sweeten the rancid taste of the initial product. Bucky
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It was back on the range yesterday, shot by 4 shooters, all loved it. Accuracy is what you would expect of a custom 1911 in a mild recoil caliber, gun function is still 100%, never a failure of any kind.

Though it was a severe pain in the ass to get it to this point, I can honestly say I am happy with the gun now.

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Finally back, just a bit after they told me it would be (enter sarcasm here). Got it to the range this morning, shot fantastic, no hiccups, no issues, shoots great.
So, now to wonder: what the hell was wrong with it and how the hell did issues so severe (as to require new barrel, new frame, and basically a whole rebuild) ever get past QC.

The test target that shipped was 5 rounds and not impressive, which might explain how terrible products get out the door. The new target sucks too, but it shoots well in my hands now, which it did not before.

This is my first STI, will be my last STI. And, for comparison, I have acquired 2 Glocks , both 9 mm) since buying this, a custom lone wolf that began life as a 22 and is now wearing a 9mm barrel, and a 34. Both shoot exceptionally well, neither has had a single hiccup. And both of which, even with RMR mounted and backup irons, cost less than the SVI. Both are accurate, more so than I can appreciate, so the STI has lost some shine.

I still love 1911s, for aesthetic reasons, sentimental reasons, and purely usage reasons; but Glock is winning me over quickly. 

Then again, there is the 40cal Novak HP in my safe, that might be the prettiest gun I own, and damn can it shoot!

Too many options, too little time (and money, my wife  might add.)

I will have another update shortly.  The STI had a rocky start, it'll need 500 or so more rounds through it to convince me it is no POS as it once was.


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They say back this week, we'll see. Range report to follow.
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I hope it's right when you get it.  I have returned quite a few defective products to reputable manufacturers with good experiences.  However, I've given up on getting explanations.  In most instances I don't think they can explain it because it is cheaper to replace parts or the product than analyse the fault which is probably beyond the ability and scope of the employees dealing with it anyway.  In some cases it may be concerns over liability.  It is not right but seems to be how it goes.  I just got a $28 check from Federal for a box of subsonic American Eage 230 grain .45 ACP ammo I returned with half of the rounds unfired because a large number of the fired cases had punctured primers (fired in three different proven 1911s). No explanation.  Disappointing but I cashed the check. 
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An update, finally an update!

For additional frame of reference: I've owned an SVI for many years (so many, in fact, that it is my first gun owned long enough to need new night sights, the original tritium died.)  I love that gun, it is a full size, 2011-framed 45ACP, it was my first custom gun built for me.
With the SVI success, and with STI's name recognition now (and great product development), I figured it was time to add a 9mm 1911
Enter the Lite Tactical STI.
The first few range trips are summarized above, I love the concept of this gun, and the execution - in all but shooting.

I got an email back this morning, they replaced the frame, didn't say why, just told me it was replaced.  They also replaced the barrel, didn't say why, just replaced it.  The gun I get back will be mostly a new gun, with no explanation yet as to how/why that happened. 
To say I am disappointed would be an understatement.  For what this thing costs, I would think it would be test fired prior to shipping.  Granted, I got some good groups for awhile, but it didn't take much for me to notice something wasn't right.  After that first range trip and the initial tightening of groups (impressively so), it never again went back to good.

STI has had my gun for almost 4 months, information has been slow, if this thing isn't stellar when it gets back...

To complicate matters even more, I got a 9mm barrel for my LoneWolf Glock 22, it is now a Glock17 and shoots great.  The hi cap 9mm 1911-grip-angle itch has been scratched, and I have yet to be pleased with STI, gun or company.

Not a smooth start.
Not a warm, fuzzy middle.
Will let you know how this one ends!
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Reserving judgement, am hopeful. Very hopeful!
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Sounds not good!  You definitely have grounds to gripe!
 
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Re-read initial email, they said "4-6 weeks."  That was 10 weeks ago.  The holidays were in there, I know, but...
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Sent back to STI in mid November, they said 4 weeks.  We are now in February, they haven't responded to the last few emails, nothing about the gun, nothing about the issues.

I sent a McMillan stock back 2 weeks ago, they said 2-3 weeks. Email from them today said in the mail back to me by Friday.

I never understand why companies over-promise then under-deliver, that seems completely backwards to me.  Had STI told me 3 months, it still would have gone in for service, and I wouldn't be looking at the calendar right now thinking, "Did UPS mis-deliver or is something really messed up with that gun?"
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Get an AR… you'll be much happier…



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I can't believe he just said that!!!!  Wink
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Get an AR… you'll be much happier…

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time to change out that plastic trigger?
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Still no failures of any kind. Another 200 rounds, Gun still doesn't group as I would hope.

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Yea, maybe got ahead of myself there.

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I honestly didn't notice the trigger shoe was plastic, thanks for that, dammit. I can't have a plastic trigger shoe! First I remove the mag well, now I am breaking in new mags, new sights are on the way, now a new trigger?

This is turning into the project that never ends.


I should'a bought a Glock 19 and called it good.

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I am a 1911 fan and a 9mm fan.  My wife and I have many 1911's, and seven of them are 9mm.  Four are Springfield, two are Kimber, and one is Rock Island.  Three are full size, one is a commander, and three are officer model.

All have functioned well, and the only real function problems were caused by some Remington UMC FMJ bulk ammo with very hard primers.  That ammo had many failures to fire.  After break in accuracy may have improved on a couple, but not drastically, and most did not change at all.

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I will have to give STI another look now that they are cerakoting at least some of their guns. In the past I was just not a fan of the bluing they used.
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JLud, based on my experience I think you will be pleased with a Dan Wesson.  My daily carry is a DW ECO (or Baer Comanche when weight is not an issue), nightstand gun that also sees range time and an ocassional club match is a DW Speciailist.  I had a Guardian but just could not get used to the look or feel of the Bobtail.  However, I still want to try one of the STI 2011s.  I gave up on current generation Kimbers after both sides of the MIM manual safety levers broke on my last one, a CDP Pro.
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I have an Sti spartan 4 in 9mm. Shoots like a dream, plastic trigger is still weird though. For a low end one I like it, and I as well love 1911s. Going Dan wesson for the next one, but buddy has an Sti trojan I'm waiting to try out maybe will change my mind.
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That is my genuine hope! I agree, it is probably nothing, but did note it on breakdown, so wanted to mention it in the write up.

Another report will follow shortly, back to the range next week for another 200-300 rounds.
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2. I have seen slide and frame wear on break-in and thereafter, just not this much this fast. My concern is more the rate than the thing itself. I have several 1911s and many have comparable wear, but they have a few thousand rounds through this one, this has similar wear with an order of magnitude fewer rounds.

A lot of that has to do with how tightly the mating parts fit together and how much surface contact is actually occurring during operation. If moving parts have greater clearance and less actual surface contact (keeping in mind that "parallel" or "concentric" surfaces on mating parts often aren't perfectly parallel, concentric, flat, and geometrically true), you will actually see less initial wear. If you're seeing different rates of "wear" on different pistols, that can be due to variances in part clearance between the different pistols. Tightly fitted parts show more initial wear, and that is both known and planned for by the manufacturer. Also keep in mind that if the manufacturer used quality materials (which I'm pretty certain is the case here), the "wear" you're seeing is only superficial, at the surface finish level (polishing), and you aren't likely getting any dimensional changes that affect service longevity. Tightly fitted parts are intended to slick up as they break-in, and part of that involves finishes being removed on mating surfaces and unfinished metal surfaces polishing/honing together during use. Once that initial break-in occurs and sliding surfaces seat together, wear becomes MUCH more gradual from that point on. It's not a linear thing that continues at the same rate in perpetuity.
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